Wednesday, March 17, 2010

Is it possible to do a loop with Cessna172?

Hi,


Yup it is possible.


I have looped a Cessna 152, although it is not designed or registered for aerobatics, it worked.


A scary moment or two over the top, but the gravity fuel pump did not pack up, the wings put up with it, and all was well.


I would reccomend plenty of altitude, say 4000ft, flat out throttle, and put the thing into a shallow angle of attack to start with. High airspeed is the key to looping.


I have been challenged to do an inverse loop, ie poke it down to upside down, and try and climb out.


I don't think that either the aircraft or myself are up to it.


Best of luck with it !


Bob.

Is it possible to do a loop with Cessna172?
Bob, don't worry, Darwin' principles will catch up with you eventually. Report It

Reply:Possible? Yes.





Legal? No.





Smart? If you have to ask, you shouldn't try it.
Reply:A C172 is not cleared for aerobatic flight, so the short answer is no. You really don't want those lift struts to break and find yourself at 6000 feet with no visible means of support.


If you really want to pull a loop in a Cessna, go for the C152 Aerobat, which is cleared for (modest) aerobatics such as rolls, loops and full spins.


Better still, buy a Yak 52 and pretend to be a P47 thunderbolt driver.
Reply:I really don't know but I would get someone else to show you first if it can be done! It could be quite messy!
Reply:yes
Reply:possible?...once


survivable? perhaps not
Reply:It is possible as long as the initial pull up is not greater than 3.8g and the pull out is not rushed. The fuel is not a problem due to the nature of the positive G force. It would only become a problem for sustained inverted flight.





Is it possible....yes. Is the aircraft designed to do aerobatics....NO, so fly the aircraft the way it was meant to be flown.





Safe flying and happy landings





And "Get a grip" if you actually read my answer then you would see that I dont endorse such behavior. The question was "is it possible" not "should I do it." If you have an axe to grind, email me if you are upset and we can have a further conversation on the issue. A C152 Aerobat has the same fuel system ie gravity fed and no fuel pump and the engine is not starved of fuel during any loop I have ever done. Do your research first before jumping to conclusions.
Reply:You asked if it is possible, yes it is. Is it recommended, probably not intentionally.





You would need plenty of altitude for safety and to build up the speed needed to complete the loop (remember the G Force recommendations for the aircraft).


A normal 172 is not designed for acrobatics. An acrobatic aircraft has beefed up wing spars. You also have a fuel pump to keep fuel going the engine. The 172 is gravity fed.
Reply:Sean M is not an aerobatic pilot. If he is then he should be grounded.


A Cessna 172 is not rated for that manoeuvre.


An Cessna Aerobat is configured for light Aerobatics but a 172 does not have inverted oil or fuel feeds.


Structurally it would be dangerous as the pullouts can exceed the aircraft's design easily.


No aircraft should be doing manoeuvres unless they are rated for it. Period.


You fly the plane for what it is intended to do.


Many planes do crash with low time pilots who do manoeuvres they were not instructed in, way too low to the ground. Look it up at the FAA web site.


You need proper training and an aircraft designed for it.


Safe flying.
Reply:If this is merely curiosity from a non-flyer, the answer is yes: it is POSSIBLE, although it would be both illegal and highly inadvisable, as the aircraft is not designed for aerobatics.





If you are a pilot or a student pilot, and you are dumb enough to ask this question, you are already well on the way to killing yourself.





Please re-read the previous sentence.





I'm completely serious, if you fly or if you are in flight training and you are even considering looping a 172, your attitude and lack of knowledge is already more than sufficient to kill you, your passengers, and possibly people on the ground. You are a smoking hole waiting to happen.
Reply:It is possible to do a complete loop but you need lots of altitude and you probably need to check your fuel lines to make sure that they are pressurized so that they will pump when inverted. C172s are not designed for acrobatics and I would not recommend it.



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